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When I was young, my father was in the Klan.

Lest there be any misunderstanding about what I mean – lest I be seen as speaking out of turn or starting vicious rumors about my family – let me clarify that statement a bit:  When I was a little girl, my father was an active member of the Ku Klux Klan.  I do not mean that figuratively, nor is it a euphemism for anything less unseemly.

Yes, THAT Ku Klux Klan.

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I can’t vouch for whether he is now an active member or not. After all, we have not spoken since 1993.

I found out about my father the hard way.

For our purposes, I am defining “the hard way” as my having had to attend a rally with him.

It went like this: It was the late 80’s.  Ronald Wilson Reagan was in the White House, hair bands were in half the world’s cassette players, and the world population reached 5 billion for the first time. It was a heady time. You know what I’m talking about.

In addition to all of those earth-shaking things I just mentioned, on the home front, my mother left my father for the third time.  It was sometime during the summer of 1987 when she left and took my brothers with her but she didn’t take me.

I don’t know quite why she saw fit to leave me with my father, but she did.

I remember because that was the year when Dad was having a room built onto our house. He hired a contractor to build it because my father could not identify – let alone use – a Phillips screwdriver if his life depended on it. He hired a contractor to build on a room, but would still speak as though he were personally building the room on.  “We’re building out,” he’d tell his friends.

And more about those friends later.  Even though I’ve basically already told you the general gist.

Anyway, during the week, the contractor my father hired would bring a couple workers to help out. Not non-English speaking Hispanic males of indeterminate age as would show up today, but college kids who needed a summer job and were only marginally better with a Phillips screwdriver than my father.

During the week, the contractor would bring these boys, and on the weekend, he’d come with his son. His son was my age but attended the public school, so I didn’t know him. The first night he came over with his dad, I humiliated him at basketball. Poor kid got his ass handed to him, and by a girl no less.

He came back again anyway, presumably under duress by his father.

The second time he came over, we played basketball with Houston Rocket Hakeem Olajuwon and one of Olajuwon’s friends. He lived right by us. Olajuwon, I mean. His friend might have lived right by us, too. I was never quite clear on that.

The construction contractor’s son and I, we ended up hanging out a lot. I suspect at first it might have been because he wanted to be able to tell his friends he occasionally played basketball with a professional basketball player. I doubt he mentioned he’d had his ass handed to him by a girl.

The construction contractor’s son and I became fast friends and stayed friends and as time went on, we started dating. We were more than ten by that time, of course. We started dating, and after that, we lived together for a number of years until he died from cancer in 2001.

Steve.

But back back back to where the summer of 1987 wore on and taking care of me became a chore for my father.  The chorish nature of attending to me almost made sense at the time. In retrospect, I can’t imagine what the problem was, as the nanny did a majority of the real work.

But somehow, there came a day when there was no one else around to watch me. My father had places to go and people to see, being the Very Important Man he was. And probably still is, I guess. You’d have to ask him.

Specifically, on one fine Houston summer afternoon, it was announced that he had a Freemasons’ meeting to attend.

The Freemasons are a bunch of white guys who might or might not run the world.  Their symbol is inexplicably on our money, but that’s another story for another day.  I have enough people who are after me this week without bringing in the Illuminati and a boatload of 33 degree Masons, too.

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As it turns out, I was not being brought to a Masons meeting. Rather, it was a Klan meeting, although I would not completely figure that out until I was a bit older. In the Klan’s defense, they were much less secretive than the Masons. At the Masons’ meetings, I had to sit out in the hall and not enter the meeting room. The Klan, on the other hand, was only too willing to let dear old Dad bring his ten year old daughter right on in.

We were in Pasadena, Texas, and there were a lot of us, and no one was wearing those pointy white hoods, but they did wear armbands that looked like this:

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I was not given an armband.

And I remember my uncle was there, and I was impressed because he got to stand up in front of the other people and speak. And they sure seemed impressed with whatever it was he was saying.  

Mostly, it seems like they were just planning other meetings, as best as I can remember it. Perhaps notably, nothing was set aflame.

My uncle was there when my father made me sit out in the hall during AA, too.  In fact, I saw my father talking to most of the same people as at the KKK and Freemasons meetings. This is interesting, I suppose, in retrospect. You can draw your own conclusions.

And that’s the long and the short of it, I guess, in the end, and the moral of this tale:

Until this very day, I can be a bit hazy at times regarding the fundamental difference between the Ku Klux Klan, the Freemasons, and Alcoholics Anonymous.

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Comments

  1. Thank you for posting this. Your father is a fucking ass hole who I hope some ACME safe falls on his head.

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  2. Seems like there should be something about the tooth fairy in there somewhere or at least Buckwheat
    I guess I'm just a hopeless romantic ....

    I don't know what that means, but I always wanted to say it ... it was so healing ..... it was, wasn't it?

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  3. My heart goes out to you and you have shown great courage in posting this blog. We have no choice of the parents we are born to but it is our duty to love them regardless but we have to disapprove of their behavior when required. Be strong and God Bless.

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  4. My theology professor (and Catholic priest and a pretty witty guy too) at Saint John's had his grandfather in the Klan.

    I guess while reading this I was seeing how much having impressionable kids around can hamper your bad side as a parent.

    I guess I need to take a good long hard look in the mirror at my own parenting as I drag my kids to softball and baseball games I coach, and Scout meetings I help lead, and see if I'm doing the same thing to them that your father did to you.

    I highly doubt it, and for that I am thankful.


    -Brian (aka Whip 007)


    Oh, and growing up near, and playing with, Hakeem, I bet you have a pretty good drop step...

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  5. I'm kinda speechless right now. I'm fascinated.

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  6. So your pops was a drunk racist? You just described half of texas, no big deal. Looks like you came out good. And cute.

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  7. Hey!!!!! I have relatives in Texas!!!!

    I hate it when you are right...

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  8. A very interesting blog. The most interesting parts are your family history, the fissures in your family, the scars that have not healed. It takes a while. I have recently learned in therapy all sorts of things that I did not want to know about myself. Nothing horrid, but nothing great either. It takes a while for all of that kind of thing to settle down enough to be sorted out. Perhaps you are more at peace with those kinds of things than I am. I hope you are, but if you are not, I hope you find it.

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  9. Interesting circles your father ran in. Strange, but interesting. All three organizations share common ground in the quasi religious arena. I am pretty sure only one has 12 steps isn't seeking world domination.

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  10. I have relatives in Texas but they're Jewish-- SHOOT, I probably just ID'd them!

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  11. Burleson is a very white town of 30,000 or so people. ... I don't mean that it is clean ... it is white. The Klan is very active here. I have lived here since last June and have only seen 2 black people in 9 months.. It is very strange after living up the road 30 miles for 40 years where the population is 55% black. As DFW continues to swell it is inevitable their will be more blacks here sooner than later .... perhaps the Klan will be overwhelmed and fade away by then ... we can only hope.

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  12. I'm surprised you dad wasn't an active member of Fred Flinstone's Moose Lodge.

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  13. Gayle I saw it in Indiana, Whiteland, Whitestown, any person of color knew to stay away, with good reason. The Klan always seem to survive, even in integrated neighborhoods.

    If I recall my cartoon history, Fred and Barney belonged to the buffalo lodge. Same idea, only horns rather than antlers on the hats. You know it is all about what type of accessory you attach to the organizational lid.

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  14. I find those Acme products to be horribly unreliable.

    Oh wait - is my father the Coyote in this analogy? Sorry. It's just that I've been trying to kill a roadrunner for more than a week now..

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  15. Oh Gayle, this was just a short episode.

    I'll come to them eventually.

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  16. I thought about this today when I was listening to Barack Obama talk about his racist white grandmother. He described her as a woman who was loving and otherwise good, but racist.

    My father would be the racist-with-no-real-redeeming-qualities type of guy.

    Not whining about it, of course. It's just that we're forced to do SOMETHING with this sort of thing once we've lived through it, I suppose...

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  17. pasadena. yes. i remember hearing about gilleys, the mechanical bull... and the klan. still active, i was told, in 1980. i read your blogs with interest. i've grown to like you through them very much, and more all the time. i've grown to like your boyfriends too. (and your parents put mine into a better perspective). okay, that's it.

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  18. I've had sex with a black woman before. Just felt like tooting my own horn a little. We were both 19.

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  19. I'm good at basketball even now.

    You know, my father never seemed to mind the big Muslim African giant coming into our yard to play basketball with his daughter. I think Olajuwon's being a famous multi-millionaire helped curb his usual complaints...

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  20. Yeah, because he couldn't lay claim to being superior to Olajuwon.

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  21. I think the password in was "Ack Acka Dak, Dak Dacka Ack", if I recall my cartoon history.

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  22. Can we assume the local Bar meetings were just an extension of the AA, KKK, Masonic gatherings?

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  23. Only half of us are drunk racists. The other half are just drunk. Speaking of which, what the hell did I do with my drink?

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  24. That was odd, it double posted my comment. I deleted one and it took out both. My question:

    Can was we assume the local Bar meeting was an extension of the AA, KKK, Masonic gatherings?

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  25. Reminds me of a quick story. My spouse and I went to my 10 year High School reunion, and this one woman was already drunk, and my spouse pointed her out to me. I looked at her, and then pulled the spouse aside.

    I told her that was my ex-girlfriend, and that she had started drinking right after we broke up, and had been drunk ever since.

    My wife looked at her, and then back to me, and then said "Pretty long time to be celebrating"...

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  26. I've been going to therapy since I was 16. I've identified the parts that need to be sorted out, if nothing else.

    We have the ability to create ourselves anew every day. But it helps not to have lingering issues from yesterday, I think.

    I don't know for sure. I'm just along for the ride...

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  27. I was about 35 years old before I completely came down from how I was raised. As soon as that happened, it wasn't long before I was put in a caretaker role with my parents. So it is easy to be dogged by the past for a good, long while. It is good that you have isolated the areas you feel you need to isolate for improvement. It is a long, hard slog, indeed.

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  28. Another piece of the puzzle has been revealed. I think that it makes sense to me that the same type of people attend those types of meetings. I can relate to some of what your saying because after my dad had an affair with his secretary, my mom left him a few times and I was pretty much left to my own devices. I was older than you though. Its funny what we remember from the past. Even if the events are fuzzy or might not have happened, I can understand from your writings about what your father's character is generally like. I would adopt you in my family, as long as you sign a release first. You have come a long way and turned out pretty damn well......

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  29. God my childhood was so freaken boring.

    This was a great read, Adri. I am not aware of the KKK residing in Australia but there's probably some sort of equivalent to it running around.

    I think I have more aboriginal friends than white friends. I don't know why that is.

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  30. A picture of the Klan will always get my attention. Racist is one of the milder words I would use in their description.

    I listen to what Obama had to say, I continued to listen as many of the talking heads repeat what they wanted to hear him say after what he actually said did not fit their preconceived ideals

    I heard what Obama had to say about his grandmother. What I heard him say was she loved him; she would cross the street in fear at the sight of a black male. His grandmother used ethnic slurs that made him shudder. I have seen black folks cross the street to avoid contact with some fearful looking black and white men and for whatever reason use ethnic slurs, I did not shudder. I know the feeling of people crossing the street to avoid coming to near to me, a fearful looking dude. Racist may not be the best word to use when it is the same word used to describe the Klan. I will have another viewing of Obama's speech on DVD and get back to you.

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  31. That's interesting: Yeah, it would seem that perhaps a different word should be used to describe someone who crosses the street or even makes a business decision on the one hand, and someone who is a member of a group like the KKK on the other. There are many folks wandering around the internet who call themselves "racialist" in this regard, meaning... I don't know. Racism without the trailer park, I presume.

    Race is complicated, obviously. But it's not THAT complicated. Some things clearly fall on one side of the line or the other. I generally try to stay on the opposite side of the line from my father.

    Thanks for coming by, Darryl! You always have something interesting and insightful to say... Plus, my friends list is pretty darn white...

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  32. I am going to steal this for something I don't know what yet.

    Pretend I didn't tell you that...

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  33. From what little we know, it sounds like a very wise policy.

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  34. Good to hear you trekked your way through the past, but sorry it was necessary.

    Actually, it makes people stronger. But given the choice, no one would choose to have to live with it.

    My mom was in an accident last year. Fortunately, she's better, because it looked for a while as though I might be needed in some capacity. I don't know that I have it in me to help those people.

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  35. It was interesting, you know? I started looking at the symbolism for the 3 organizations. There are parallels. Secret societies have common motifs in their symbolism, I guess...

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  36. There are a few Jewish folks in Texas. Hell, Houston has a Jewish Community Center. Kinky Friedman ran for Governor a couple years back proudly touting his... Jewishness (I won't say Judaism, but I suspect he's not the most hardcore of religious types).

    Anyway, it only narrows your family down to about 6 people. But I've no idea which of those 6 are your people...

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  37. I had family in a northern Dallas suburb called... Coppell? Cappell?

    Regardless, they moved because the racial makeup was changing. Today, witht he influx of outsiders, I see it is 2% black. Scary stuff, indeed, haha...

    The black % of the population hasn't gone up in decades. As the number of non-white doctors and lawyers and businessmen goes up, I'm sure non-whites are living in areas of town they never used to.

    I don't know. I'm really not an expert. Interesting topic, though...

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  38. Man, I'd be careful about posting the secret password on the internet.

    Last night, I was trying to check on my comments and discovered that Multiply was apparently down.

    My first thought was "The same night I compare three secret societies, I can't log onto my account?" It started all sorts of paranoid thoughts!

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  39. We didn't live in pasadena. But my uncle was down there, and the KKK hall was the most prominent and public. Until the early 80s, it apparently had a sign out front!

    I'm glad my life makes yours seem good in comparison! Haha... I am always happy to see you around, Tina. Thank you for the kind words...

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  40. Congratulations, famblycat.

    I have not. However, Strom Thurmond did.

    Alas, according to my understanding of Strom (and perhaps YOU, too), they both went back, discrediting the old saying...

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  41. It's a pretty good guess.

    All the middle-aged white dudes were pretty much out of fingers for the rings...

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  42. (psssst! ... I borrowed your bike - hope you don't mind)

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  43. My dear... You are a trip.... I have been to a meeting of sorts very similar to those that you referenced, but not of my own desires. It would appear that life is trying to clean some things up for you... If I can lend a hand or can help in any way, please let me know... Hugs Adri....

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  44. It must have been difficult keeping the secret handshakes sorted out.

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  45. It must be more common than I could ever imagine, folks having damage from when they were kids. Those intial years - up to some age I can't determine - are so important, I think. Crap happens to me now and I pretty much just brush it off. It's different for the yung'uns.

    It seems like MOST of your crazy ambitious people you see had wretched childhoods or hated or lost a parent. I suspect they're trying to prove something.

    They either get wacko ambitious or turn into addicts.

    Or both, perhaps, in my case...

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  46. Childhood should be boring, I think. Gotta let the brain and stuff grow in peace.

    It's funny you mention the aboriginal friends... I haven't dated a white guy since the guy I mentioned in this blog - Steve - died. I suspect it might have something to do with NOT wanting to find a guy like dear old dad...

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  47. Normally I would try to come up with something funny or just rude, but somehow I feel like that has already been taken care of...

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  48. Thank you, Herb. I wonder how common that is - having seen this kind of thing firsthand as a kid.

    I suppose it's all part of what they call "The Old Boys Club." As I mentioned in a prior blog, I saw the guys at my old office having these very important work-related meetings at strip clubs. I demanded that I be included.

    I'm not really interested in funny hats, though. Nor am I interested in ceasing my bad habits. So these groups are pretty much out for me.

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  49. Not sure how you would pull off a funny hat, but I have this vision and now I am lost for the day... And, who said you had to give up your bad habits... if they work for you, continue... you should only cease if they no longer provide for you what they had to begin with...

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  50. you used to wear hats when you watched parades from the balcony of the last placed you lived ... just a few blocks away from where you are now

    how soon we forget! ... What fun is a freakin' parade without proper skull wear Adri?
    Tell me it's coming back ... that you are remembering .... Adri? Adri?

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  51. Holy shit that is a hell of a logic jump in your post.

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  52. Dr. Hoffmann's white bicycle is available for borrowing any time!

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  53. I'm not sure where you mean.

    I certainly wasn't saying the three organizations are the same, but rather that they kind of melted together in my mind as a young adult. The same way an old boyfriend of mine got Jesus and the Tooth Fairy confused.

    AA meetings rarely turn into cross burnings, to the best of my knowledge. Or if they do turn into cross burnings, there's a good chance someone has fallen quite a ways off the wagon indeed.

    Nevertheless, after reading a couple of your blogs, I get the feeling you and I would not agree on much at all. Which makes me happier about being me.

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  54. does it have a side car and training wheels?

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  55. hmmm, first, probably Church sanctioned poop with flubber-like qualities

    perhaps in a jumping contest, again Church sanctioned, maybe involving Eggs Benedict Himself

    finally, something having to do with the post used in the piercing above your upper lip...

    come to think of it, I'm not sure what he means either

    but then I'm not sure what anything means .... there are clues, but they are lost on me

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  56. I'm just saying ... the mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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  57. I grew up in Southwest Missouri where they had this one radio station play "Dixie" before the National Anthem when they signed off and one of the TV stations had a special praising the Klan. In Joplin, they started a hospital just because the Klansmen didn't want to be treated by Catholic Doctors. There were rumors (probably true) of Klan ceremonies in the lead mine tailing piles on the edge of town. (Joplin has these vast wastelands of its lead mining legacy surrounding it. The mine tailing places make good areas to use your ATV and motorcycle).

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  58. Yeah, I read a couple of his blogs without comment today, so he popped over to read one of mine. I don't think he'd like it here. We're nuts in these parts, but not generally vile jerks.

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  59. Those are amazing stories.

    The Dixie thing, I try not to pass judgment on. I don't nkow where a sense of shared culture amongst white southerners ends and actual racism begins, and in the grand scheme of things... I don't know.

    The Catholic doctors things is one step funnier. It reminds me of how Stalin wanted all of the Jews out of his country until he started seeking the bomb. Then he brought Jews IN for the purpose of getting one.

    Missouri is... more southern than it's generally given credit for. So is Kansas, actually.

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  60. let us not forget that we are not just nuts ... we are, infact, nutty dorks

    this is the dork mothership

    I beam up to the mothership with the nuts that I gather when I beam down to the forest to rob the chipmunks

    I am the beamer up and downer, it's what I do ....

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  61. A dear friend of mine from Mississippi (who happened to be named Dixie) objected when I included myself in a conversation about southerners. I was told that I wasn't a southerner, but a Texan. And while we were on the same side during the War of Northern Aggression, there is a distinct difference.

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  62. How about this one? Funny enough?

    Makes you wonder why I was wearing it in an airport, doesn't it?

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  63. That picture makes me want to burn a cross on your lawn.

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  64. That's getting into some hardcore 19th century regionalism, there.

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  65. I remember the day you stole that hat off a gnome in George Harrison's front yard

    ( I knew you were holding out) .... you have one of those whirly bird beanies too don't you? Any dork worth a pillar of salt does you know ....

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  66. that was supposed to be the hat quote ... how did that happen? this is not 360!

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  67. Definitely, Gayle.

    The Sanitarium is the most wonderful bunch of oddballs I've ever encountered. It's a beautiful thing indeed.

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  68. beautiful in a touching way no less ....

    it is nice around here

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  69. Only one half of one percent was the black population where I grew up. I didn't know racism existed until age 25 when I moved to Minneapolis/St Paul where there was a large black population and ethnic mixture. Racism nearly doesn't exist there either although is occasionally lurks in the background. My black/white friends and dates were about the same proportion as the black/white population, nearly 20%. I am happy to say that it appears to me that there are more and more interracial couples and it is becoming common an natural and normal. Nobody notices. I dated a black girl for several years and we could have gotten married but just didn't. I took my black girlfriend to a country bar and shortly thereafter received death threats in the mail AT HOME. Whaaaaaaat???

    I fail to understand why "racism" exists? I guess maybe I was lucky to not have known when I was a kid ?? I have such an extremely "normal" family. No drama in our family.

    BTW. I feel very comfortable here in your sanitarium. Most everybody is smiling.

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  70. ooooooohhh ... a 3 day old green chicken

    Salmonella express

    go to higher ground immediately Adri

    (I'd say hi to the chicken, but I can't say words that long without a short nap in between syllables ....)

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  71. gaylehtx - Itsokbecauseicaneasilyunderstandsentenceswithoughtanapinbetweensyllablessoyoucansayhi.

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  72. um.. Actually you're driving. A thought that slipped your mind more viscerally 'bout a year ago?

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  73. I could imagine that maybe you have issues thinking that "Steve" was a "valid" relationship? I mean.. there were a lot of un-healthy reasons you two ended up together.

    The whole the relationship was probably very healthy and redeeming and loving.. and possibly the best you've had.. but when taken In Context.. *you* might be tempted to discount and rebel against it, the relationship.. as well as your Dad.

    And maybe you feel that you still need a Real One.

    My first romantic indulgence was my 2 year younger step-sister by Dads remarriage, after my Moms cancer death. (step-sister was not his daughter.)

    (yeah. armchair therapy rocks.)

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  74. it my attention span .....

    do you do smoke signals?

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  75. I thought the same thing. I thought the comment more than a bit odd, although not too surprising coming from a woman named Dixie. We didn't talk much about stuff after that conversation.

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  76. Almost a year ago, yeah. I'll have to move that blog over soon in celebration of the anniversary...

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  77. Thank you, Bert. It's an interesting batch of people, and there is only rarely infighting. Even when it comes to issues like race and such...

    I don't know why race is still the issue it is. I think people are always trying to compare themselves to some other group for a variety of reasons: to help explain why they haven't accomplished what they think they shuld have, to explain why the world isn't as good as it felt years back, etc. Race is a good way to explain it.

    Unlike saying "It's the gays, " or "It's the Germans," or "It's the liberals," race is quick. I can just look at you and tell if you are a different race or not. Or in your case, species. I've always said it was the chickens' fault that this country is in the shape it's in...

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  78. You're going to make poor Gayle's head explode...

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  79. no, no, no ....

    I'm my own demolition expert .... occasionally Adri , you do some like fourth of July stuff that is entertaining

    but on the whole ... I find that if some people are around me for too long at a time ... they will eventually implode mentally ..... on their own.

    society call those people culls ... eventually they have to go anyway

    so it's not as bad as it appears to be taken at face value

    I'm an enviormentally friendly .... mind recycler .... village idiot, nut, dork, and yes, so much more.

    Today, for example ... I have dedicated myself to care free bull shit and I have spread it everywhere I have been .....

    I am a hero to many an earthworm I'm proud to say.

    Green chickens indeed

    Adri, send him some food coloring!

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  80. gaylehtx - I'm so relieved that you didn't explode. BTW, I'm nearly 100% red again (Thx for the dye adri). .

    adri - I think race is a "feel good" thing.. to put others down so you can feel superior...?
    I have a start on a blog about race, prejudice, and culture. Someday I may finish and post it. There was an interesting exhibit on race here in town last summer... makes you think. I wish everyone could see that exhibit. It was good to see so many people of various colors, cultures, etc there all mingling in perfect harmony. As usual, it seems the people who need to see it the most are the ones who never will see it.

    A related subject/event
    http://bertthemensachicken.multiply.com/journal/item/28/Are_they_real_in_the_video_One_big_party.

    BTW "chicken species"... did you see my home/site page a few days ago ???
    "It’s good to keep this in mind. There are 6.6 billion people in the world, but there are 24 Billion CHICKENS".

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  81. thanksbertthemensachickenyoumuchbetternowinanongreenway... 24billionchickensminusoneIjusthadlunchI'mgladtheyhavefinallydeveopedintelligentnonexplosivechickens
    Adrilikestoeatbrains(seeher360blog)ifshe hasblownitupagainoreatenit

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  82. The chickens shall inherit the earth...

    I'll check out the blog!

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  83. Famblycat - for those of you just joining us - is kind of like a map of the universe. The kind that shows how huge the universe is compared with the earth.

    Everytime any of us start taking ourselves too seriously, there's a famblycat comment to put it all in perspective.

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  84. she needs to be gobbling some plastic surgeons .... she is looking bad ...

    I say detonate the bitch!

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  85. (I wasn't talking about you Adri)

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  86. Thank you for clarifying which bitch you were referring to.

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  87. (KA-BOOM.....again) That doesn't make any sense... Pam Anderson and a map of the universe ??? HA Ha ha HO Ho ho...ya sure you betcha.

    (Totally perplexed).

    ?? Or is that Famblycat is like a map of the universe?

    ?? or is that Famblycat is huge compared to Pam Anderson ??

    ?? or Famblycat is huge compared to the universe (or visa versa?) ??

    *Opens book on "Budget Traveling through the Universe"...*

    (Bert contemplates silently.... Why are all big busted women called bitches?).

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  88. I like to point out the paradox that is Pam, she rallied with PETA fervently against KFC but one of her greatest assets is her skill with the bird in hand (and mouth).
    BTW, thanks Adr.

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  89. ?? Still confused..... Pam Anderson has a Chicken fetish ???

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  90. nothing beats a good claification

    except for an old fashioned Salem style witch dunking ... kind like "will it float" on The Letterman show

    regarding bitches, Pamela A. is a master bitch, your bitchiness is more a matter of internet role playing ... and seems to be in remission

    what we we have ever done if Dr.House hadn't shown up when he did?

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  91. 'specially in light of the fact it's so difficult to tell Adri and Pamela apart.

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  92. Both a map of the universe and a comment by famblycat make you realize your world is not as important and serious as you thought it was...

    I suspect that large-breasted women might be called by that term by men who cannot have their way with them. Although, in guys' defense, I do not have large breasts by any measure, and yet the word is used with me almost regularly...

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  93. more like "Raging Pussy Syndrome"

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  94. Wait wait... I have to write all this down... so educational and enlightening.

    Important and serious ? HA Ha ha HO Ho ho.. ya sure you betcha.

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  95. Hey hey hey... this is almost a family show...

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  96. you mean "as in the ptich black dark at 10,000 meters?" ....

    or on the phone Torrent?

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  97. (Bert is seriously blushing)... (Bert the family G-rated Chicken).

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  98. it wasn't a rabid Pussy Adri ... she had her shots

    she was foaming at the mouth though ...

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  99. hey ... I'm talking about her damn cat!

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  100. next thing you know PETA is gonna show up saying I've been abusing chickens and kittens

    jeesh!

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  101. *Jerry Falwell calling from Limbo for Adri ...line 1*

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  102. Yeah, cuz I censor y'all so much.

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  103. I was always wondering which is the correct way to spell "Jeesh", or "Geesh", or "jeesch", or ???

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  104. I go for "Jeez" or "Sheesh."

    But I'm about to hit "Preview and Spell Check" to see what the almighty Multiply says...

    (For the record, it likes "Jeez")

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  105. no, that's not it ....

    I thinks he's wanting you to hook him up with Pam somehow ... if not Pam, The Princess

    Jerry's just an average ordinary guy when you take away his tithings

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  106. Try "for crips sake" (What's a crip?).

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  107. duly noted

    your spell checker is set to detonate in 3 minutes .....

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  108. Well, I gotta climb out of this sandbox and get back into the real world... I shall return.

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  109. Adri? what's Bert mean when he says real?

    it's actually crazier out there than it is in here

    don't tell me it has anything to do with putting food on the table either

    Bert looks more like a rooster than a chicken ... do you suppose he is one of them cross feathering chickens?

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  110. OK, not totally gone yet... I'm known as "Bert, the 5 Pound Cock". No cross-feathering for me, thanks. (now I'm gone).

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  111. ok, so Bert and Famblycat are the same person

    next thing you know, Dolly the sheep is going to show up claiming she had a 5lb. cock ...

    god knows I won't want to know what happened to it

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  112. That's not me. But I do troll people's blogs like that chicken is doing here. Lots of whining and self pity mush mouthing happens on this site. Its boring. At least here I can't tell if I'm sober or not.

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  113. this racially sensitive subject has spiralled down to subliminal penis messages mixed with what appears to me to be some attempt by the Klan to schedule a meeting...or maybe i wasn't entirely paying attention.

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  114. off to re-read Cocksucker Blues and doesn't know why

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  115. Yes it has. And I have been disappointed by some of the later ones...

    One of these days, I'm going to post some sort of code of conduct.

    Until then, all I can do is write blogs I think are challenging and/or fun and see who is interested.

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  116. We all know George Michael is gay but thinking about his Wham song, "Pick me up before you go go" just got a completely new meaning that is yukka.

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  117. Interestingly, the Netherlands is now legalizing public sex in parks.


    http://www.nisnews.nl/public/080308_2.htm

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  118. fillin' my shoes ain't as easy as it looks. And I do say so myself.

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  119. (shit, that just made me think of Harry...)(my shoe post, not the Netherlands)

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  120. hmmm, what size Torrent?

    I still have a bag of concrete mix in the garage.

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  121. WOW that was a frantic read of 50 comments. That will teach me to spend the afternoon working and not monitoring the goings on at the santitarium. Time to go play in traffic.

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  122. Unfortunately, the last 50 comments might not have been the best use of your time...

    Playing in traffic at least gets results. You end up different than you came.

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  123. I diagree, marginally

    subjectively, it was better than a nap or say, a toothache, maybe a summons

    objectively .... well since we were all here, it probably doesn't qualify objectively at all

    moderator, strike Adri's last comment from the record

    she had a long day

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  124. I put the discussion betwixt you, the cat, and the chicken to be better than a toothache, way worse than a nap.

    About on par with a summons.

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  125. 101 new comments in here in the last 14 hours.

    Thanks a bunch for making me read all that in one fell swoop, guys :|

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  126. yeah, can you believe she pays me $15.hr. just to sit at my computer and pretend that I'm all those people.

    of course, being a multiple makes it even easier

    Adri's not bad at all to work for once she understood the concept of boundries and quit trying to make me have phone sex with her all the time

    she's really very sweet

    (the precceding message is endorsed by no one, everything thing but she's really very sweet ... was made up.)

    when do I get my check Adri?

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  127. What about the "Skull and Cross Bones" secret society that all the guys like GWB belong to? These guys do run the country. You'll never know about this one, but I'll bet ole pops is a charter member. Fits in nicely with all the rest of these "wanna be a member of something" orgs or is it uggs.

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  128. Good to see you, Pro1fit!!!

    I like the one that all the Presidents and Secretaries of State have been in while in office. They all go out in the woods naked and beat drums or something?

    Anyway, I think Skull & Bones is just a Yale thing, and dear old dad did not have any ivy on his alma mater.

    I go with Groucho's line: "I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me."

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  129. Ha! I know, it's almost unforgivable. In their defense, it's generally only the first 10 comments that are worth reading. Although they have sprinkled some interesting stuff throughout this time...

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  130. I've never moved the Harry shoe blog over here, have I?

    I'll have to correct that.

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  131. That may explain why the last organization I was loosly affliated with was the Rodeo Club at Purdue. Mental derrangement, and ability to drink large quantities of cheap beer, were the only qualifiers. Crap, the same could be said for the other 3 organizations too.

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  132. Yeah! Beats an ivy league blue blood group any day of the week!

    When I was graduating from law school, they had what they call the "hooding" the night before the official graduation. For graduate degrees, you get hooded, only it's not a hood, it's a long tassle/collar thing.

    Anyway, so they told us if we had a professional (doctor or lawyer, presumably) in the family, they could "hood" us instead of the dean. Well, the head of the household that I lived with after the age of 16 was a Master Plumber. So I said, sure, I want this master plumber to hood me.

    No one got hooded by professionals that year. They didn't want a plumber on their stage, apparently, and changed the professional hooding at the last second that year.

    I'll take beer over wine any day of the week.

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  133. Apparently they didn't know what a Master Plumber gets per hour is competitive to a Dr & Lawyer.

    Having consumed several times my share of domestic beer, about the only thing I can tolerate now are microbrews and dark Mexican beers. There are always a couple bottles of something in the back of the fridge, for medicinal purposes of course.

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  134. I think that after growing up in East Texas too, I have come to a conclusion. Some people are racist and some are not. Texas does not have to be perceived as that much worse than any other state.

    In my family we are all kinds of races: White, Mexican, Filipino, Czech...it makes me happy that my girls can consider themselves of a beautifully mixed decent.

    Guess it goes to show that the type of people your parents are can make you the same, or in your case make you very different. You are bright and insightful. But, I assume that is because YOU made yourself that way. My folks taught me to be accepting of others' race, sexuality and religion. (If I left something important out of that short list, I am truly sleepy right now.)

    Man, and to think that I was embarrassed that my Mom smoked pot and Dad farted with the collection plate in his hands.

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  135. now there's a symbolic gesture if there ever was one ...

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  136. Very funny! I can picture it in my mind's eye so clearly... such an image! I will go to bed laughing now...Thanks!

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  137. You know, there should be a church, indeed a religion based solely on that comment ...

    The First United Church Of The Farting Collection Plate. Church members would be referred to as Fartologists. The church's hymnals would be printed of 2-ply toilet paper. The church would have porta-potties instead of confession booths. ....

    can you feel it? I'm talking about a divine fart sent from heaven that floats on water.

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  138. Your comments always make me smile.

    You're right about Texas, though. There are a lot of folks who perceive racism as a southern problem. I have never seen as many racists as I did a few years back in a northern state. Wasn't north-north, but I'll just say it was on the Union side in the Civil War.

    I like your list, actually. "Race, sexuality, and religion." The ingredients for a good blog, incidentally.

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  139. As it should be. Civilization would fall apart just as quiickly without them.

    We don't have any respect for folks like plumbers, it seems to me. I don't have the knowledge to do that job and wouldn't want to if I did. Of course, I wouldn't want to be a doctor, either.

    But maybe it's best that the average person out there doesn't know how much plumbers make: there are 22,000 attorneys in the county where I live and probably a tiny fraction of that number of plumbers.

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  140. that must be why Lutherans practice incensation at the Gospel...

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  141. I took a Newspaper writing course as an undergrad. We had to write an article based on a group interview (nothing like going up against Tony Snow, to be sure) of a person. The interviewee was a black woman from Mississippi. One of the things that came out was the difference between northern and southern racism. The south was very obvious, the north very subtle, and perhaps a bit more difficult to deal with since you never really knew where you stood with people.

    Thanks Abby and Adri for making me think this early in the morning. Now I am done until lunch.

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  142. Again you are correct about the perception of skilled tradesman vs. an alleged professional. I tend to hang out more with the plumbers in life. Having dabbled in most all of the building trades at one time or another, plumbing is my least favorite and the only one I flatly refuse to tackle, beyond changing a fixture.

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  143. And the TSA worries about our shoes...

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  144. I'm pretty much on every list there is already. They're lucky to let me on the plane, let alone without checking a hat that I could smuggle an entire person on board under...

    I probably should have mentioned that I'm on all the lists BEFORE y'all started posting on my page, huh?

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  145. that hat could have been a Dunce Hat once used in a Catholic girl's school, color coordinated to the school uniform of the period ...
    did you steal the hat Adri?

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  146. In this day and age that would be helpful...

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  147. The U.S. Government was not only responsible for LSD and Aids, but there is now convincing evidence the Irish Potato Famine of the 1800's was an early Bush administration stem cell experiment gone bad as was Rosie O'Donnel

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  148. This is a very distracting post, Adri. I will have to recatalogue my match box collection all over again, I think.
    But - is your dad a Catholic and a free mason? Is this possible?

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  149. Thanks for stopping by, tocatoad!

    It would neither be possible for my father to be Catholic and a Freemason nor Catholic and a Klansman. Well, it might be possible to be Catholic and a Klansman, but there would be self-hatred issues involved that go beyond the scope of this blog.

    My father's not Catholic. Other family members were, but he never seemed overly concerned about the contradiction...

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  150. To clarify the image, one time as my Dad passed by my aisle in church in a smooth motion with no pauses or mechanical movements, he actually gently lifted his right leg mid step and softly farted as he passed our aisle. I don't know if I have ever silently laughed so hard and simultaneously wished I was elsewhere in my life. It was quite the Thanksgiving story for years to come.

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  151. As do your blogs. What about my pictures when I am dancing on the roof? What emotion does that evoke?

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  152. The goofy faces and positions of your roof pics were hilarious, actually. I practically live on the overhang outside my bedroom window, so the concept doesn't make me overly nervous. Still, the faces I make while I am out on that roof overhang are not as funny as the ones you were making, so you have me completely beat.

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  153. Not for nothing but not once in this whole blog about the despicable people who call themselves the "power" did you agree or disagree with their basic fundamental beliefs. I think you wrote what needed to be seen. Nothing. Sorry but I've lost a lot of respect for you on this one. Especially since so many people read em :(

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  154. DJ: Yup. After I posted it the other night, it occurred to me that the Klan imagery alone probably brings up more really strong feelings in people than I gave it credit for.

    I've spent my legal career beating the figurative crap out of the power structure that holds people down every which way I can. Part of this is no doubt because I connect these things in my mind with my father, and it is generally known by readers that I really, really dislike the guy. My ill feelings about my father and all he represented determined the course of my life.

    I noted when Darryl posted a comment, above, that my friends list is overwhelmingly light-complected. For that reason and many others, I certainly cannot call your reaction illegitimate. Based on the comments so far, it appears that readers overwhelmingly saw my father as a villain in this.

    It might say something about how I see myself that I assumed that a condemnation of racist organizations was implicit in the blog.

    I always value your opinion, and of course I've never allowed anyone to mutter racist statements within a mile of this blog (I chased away a commenter yesterday that I interpreted that way). I'm not sure a disclaimer at the beginning that racism is loathsome would do anything, but I'll think about a way of rectifying any ambiguity tonight...

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  155. If you were actually a regular reader of Adri's blogs, you would know that she regularly addresses dispicable people in a head on fashion. She quietly addressed the issue in this blog. Sometimes understating issues can be every bit as powerful as the public bashing you seem to be thirsty for.
    Of course I wouldn't expect you to understand this concept, you already made it obvious you don't.

    Maybe you should stick to reading your He-Man comics.

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  156. oh ...hi Adri
    didn't know you were here

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  157. Hey hey Gayle... We've always avoided that kind of thing, and besides, DJ's an old 360'er, so he's been around. I'm not discounting what he said, nor the idea that some points should be made crystal clear...

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  158. Yeah. The images do bring out hate. But its your blog so obviously you do what you please. The only problem I had with it all is that you not once did you put in a disclaimer.. I understand we like to have fun on here but you really jump on both sides of the fence with this one and it seems to even pass your eyes. Thats scary.

    "Racism" even if its not seen..it'll always be known it exists. But when it doesn't exist to be seen. Will it be known ?".. - Me

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  159. sorry, I'll delete my comment
    actually, you can, I don't do that anymore

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  160. Hey! No deleting!

    I say stupid crap regularly, and I leave my dumb-ass statements up for all the world to see...

    We're all cool here.

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  161. sorry djlodosenyc

    had a bad day ... I apologize

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  162. ok..first and foremost.. I didn't attack her... I lost respect for the fact that she didn't for ONE denounce racism at all in all of this. Even with all the images. It only seems appropriate to do so since most of us live in the real world and it is serious..

    It's cool Gayle.. I know things can get somewhat crazy :)

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  163. In her defense, she's writing a good portion of this from the reminiscing view of (when she was) a 10 year old and her father. Up until roughly that age, you think what happens in your household is normal. It isn't until you've gained more experience and can look with a learned eye, that you can see how dispicable the entire situation was, and to bring an innocent child with to a place like that is even worse.

    On another multiply friend of mine's blog today, they are discussing Huckabee's reaction to Obama's speech. (http://blackhornet.multiply.com/journal/item/607/Alright_Huckabee?replies_read=11) if your interested in seeing it.

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  164. Just for the record..she's not ten years old. She's still an adult. But thx for pointing that out.

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  165. I'm staying away from Obama-related blogs for a while. I was knocked off of about 4 friends lists this week because of my perhaps overly passionate reaction to folks who I interpret as making racist statements.

    In fact, the fact that I had been so roundly attacked for my reaction to what I perceived as racism was probably the reason I wrote this one last wek. It was an attempt to explain part of my reaction to that kind of crap.

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  166. Wow.

    I am WAY late to the dance here, having had more than my share of work lately, but I'll offer my two cents:

    You are one hell of a woman, to have survived that, and become what you are.

    I'll leave it there.

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  167. I'm crawling back under my rock until I get out of this bad mood

    have a good evening everyone

    grrrr! *semi-grin*

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  168. I reread my comment Dj and you are right, it is written from an adult reminiscing about something that happened when she was 10ish. I put a more accurate statement in parenthesis.


    Adri, as far as the Obama speech, my main comment is that right now we are getting the spin from the so called "pundits", let a few years or decades go by before we can see the speech for what it really is, or should be seen for.

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  169. Its cool. Its just that since so many people actually read her blogs I guess I expected more from her. And since she used to help people as a lawyer I didn't understand why she needed to leave out the disclaimer like its a joke. It's not in my opinion but hey. It is just that. An opinion. A lot of people have died, suffered, and still suffering. I think Adri is fine. But of course. I could be wrong.

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  170. Thank you. Wasn't trying to get kudos for my courage - race has just been in the news and it made me think of this. I don't know how typical it is as far as rich white experiences go, although based on the comments, it's not overly unusual...

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  171. Well, it's going to help or hurt his candidacy NOW, though.

    I'm not naive enough to believe that cultural change occurs on the Presidential level, so I wouldn't expect an "I Have a Dream" speech from any candidate. My statements that caused sooooo much controversy on other blogs were mostly that there was NOTHING he could have said that the bloggers involved would have given him points for.

    I mean, his speech was not geared towards people who are 100% sure not to vote for him anyway.

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  172. Whaaaaaaaaaaaat ??? ...... Do you have to publicly denounce racism in order to convince others of your disapproval? Can't we just just simply disapprove and demonstrate by our actions? Must you wear a sign or something?
    ( just popped in and read a few recent comments and leaving again, bye)

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  173. I have a fairly dry sense of humor. I pass judgment on things through my descriptions most of the time. The Bill Clinton blog from a couple weeks ago was an example of this: I don't think I explicitly insulted Clinton once, but it was obvious from my descriptions that I was making fun of him.

    Dry, subtle humor works better with some subjects than others...

    I don't know. ARE we as a society in need of a disclaimer when a bad character does something racist? There are characters on television like Greg House or Andy Sipowitz who regularly make racist and anti-Semitic comments, and it's supposed to be understood that the guys are sleazeballs.

    But no one says it outright. So it might an be an interesting question...

    Ya'll should discuss that instead of the crap you've been talking about the last couple days!

    Night, Bert...

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  174. You're fine by me, Gayle. No rock-crawling needed.

    I'm just always careful not to let things here devolve into the kind of insult-fest I see elsewhere on Multiply. We're still well shy of that...

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  175. Disclaimer ? yeah. It does help those who don't know... In the know. But it also sets seeds into people's brains just like the white sheets and the barnstormers did and continue to do.The only difference in yours is that it would be a positive one.

    Greg House (love the show but I haven't watched T.V consistently in over a year so I don't know what crap he's said since last and he is a racist but he hates everyone so its understood..don't make it right but its understood).

    Yeah, I read the Bill Clinton one. It was cute.

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  176. This is the crux of the racism 'issue/complaint' DJ seems to have raised. I cannot imagine any person who is a current Contact of The Sanitarium thinking this blog in any way, even passively condoned the Klan.

    For me at least it's like writing a blog about eating or killing babies.. but leaving out the official notice that It's Bad Thing.

    But.. one doesn't always know ones audience and the young and impressionable might read this blog and think... "cool.. The Klan is kinda like the Masons.. I should check 'em out."

    Love all around folks.

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  177. I don't preach, but I describe in ways that only leave one conclusion to be drawn. Or that SHOULD, anyway. I have had blogs horribly misinterpreted.

    Plus, people don't seem to understand that some of the blogs have been old blogs I'm moving over from 360 (even though I include a clause explicitly stating it's an old blog), and that kind of concerns me.

    And sometimes I'm not ambiguous. Remember "I'm Movin' On (Again)"? It's my other one that dealt with racism.

    http://adrisanitarium.multiply.com/journal/item/14

    Not a lot of ambiguity in that one.

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  178. paintedtorrent - I agree with what you said. Some things are abundantly clear already and need no further explaination.

    Adri - we've ALL had things sometimes horribly misinterpreted.

    (NOW I'm gone). nite all

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  179. I'm not gonna continue this but if you don't see the error in your ways then I'm not the one to point em out. I love most of the stuff you've written but once you get lost in your own fame I think you lose focus in whats really important. But hey "opinions are like assholes, everybody got one"

    And since most people on here either have a avatar or a character or is white then that makes it that much more complex to comprehend where exactly all this is coming from.

    I remember you helping me out...or at least trying to so don't think I forgot.

    I just wish you did make it obvious that all these things in your blog were bad cause it just looks like you can go either way on it and thats too easy. Peace

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  180. ...sometimes saying what you feel, directly in as few words as possible, is daunting. And just not as much as leaving wiggle room and a pinch of ambiguity. Some folks just prefer to point things out.

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  181. wow, i've let 158 slip by while contemplating this one. seriously. and i'll contemplate some more. i can relate in more than one way to this blog. i had to dig very little to get there, but nonetheless . . .

    thanks. :)

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  182. Sometimes people will strain to hear a whisper while ignoring a shout. Sometimes it is better to make your point with using subtle tactics rather than beating someone over the head. We seem to have degenerated into a society of head bashing message delivery services, regardless of what side of an isle you might choose to sit on.

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  183. I read recently in Newsweek (from an issue that was months old....having kids will do that to a person) about some seemingly throwaway issues in campaign speeches become real policy in the future. Two examples it gave was a speech in 1960 by MN Senator Hubert Humphrey about a program to send bright young idealists overseas in some kind of service, which begat JFK's Peace Corps initiative. The second was Bill Clinton and the Earned Income Tax Credit. I wish my memory was better or I had the actual article here to expand on the theory of current speeches having future impact.

    As far as Obama, I guess right now it's being treated as a campaign speech and you said accurately that it will help or hurt him now. But it's nice to see someone with the "bully pulpit", for lack of a better term, stop tiptoeing around the issue and tackling it head on, and that can be the starting force in cultural change.


    But that's just my opinion, your actual results may vary.

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  184. I'm going to make a few statements here.

    Dj: Just because you see it that way doesn't make it truth. Please be aware of that. Adri can do more damage to a group by not putting in a disclaimer sometimes. That's a subtle kind of humor you have to see beyond the surface.

    Now, where I live in Texas is overwhelmingly white, except for the Latinos that do the dirty service work. So far in the course of my job, I've met 4 black families, and two mixed race families. I know there are more; Rayfield White, a Football Hall of Famer, lives in my neighborhood, and I suspect there are others that don't order pizza. I will note on the surface the people I deal with day in and day out, of all races, are overwhelmingly gracious.

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  185. That is a really... wow, nifty observation, actually.

    I used to do a lot of work with a minor third party. And one of the local wise men for the party used to describe what 3rd parties were responsible for. In history, 3rd parties championed - and a major party later "stole" - a host of issues from the abolition of slavery to child labor laws, 40 hour work week, etc.

    What you're saying here is similar - that the impact might not be felt for many years. It just reminded me of it.

    I think, for the major parties, Goldwater's brand of "modern conservatism" caught on long after he'd lost the 1964, election, too. I'm not sure Goldwater healed anyone, but I'm trying to be even-handed.

    But yes, it would be great if, after the partisanship of the current election, we could look back years from now and see a good speech and see something that is going to heal racial attitudes in the country. That would be a great thing indeed...

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  186. Maybe, but things probably aren't going to change very much in the immediate future.

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  187. Good to see ya, Random. You're not really all that late. Everyone else was just early.

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  188. I agree, although I search in vain for a good analogy.

    If there was, say, an organization spcializing in assaulting ME, Adri - we'll call them the Adri Assault Club - and someone wrote about the organization, I'd be sure to read the blog. Furthermore, if the article was ambiguous, I might be a bit, um, sad? "Why, um, didn't you mention that the Adri Assault Clkub is loathsome and criminal?"

    So I can understand the sentiment, even if I do not agree with it as applied here.

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  189. Yeah, that's what I was thinking when I was reading your comment here - you get the opportunity to see a wider assortment of families with your job than most would.

    We're having one of the better conversations over this blog than we usually do. I'm glad it happened, even though I have no answers...

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  190. To me, the Internet is a place "out of time"

    You can never really be early or late

    You just are ...

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  191. I'm not looking for change *grin*, just a little stretching. You do a great thing with your writing. We're leavin' the Change for Obama. Ha.

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  192. I think this trend simply reflects the over-all Dumbing of America. It's a bit of a chicken and egg deal. Advertising is about the Impulse Buy, wo 'em and sell it. Deep thought and introspection are time consuming, and don't generate any revenue. You can't sell People magazine subscriptions if the 'stories' are so long you have to turn a page. And then, before you know it.. nobody wants a long story... cuz they are too much work.

    pardon the digression.. Back to racism in America.. sorry.

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  193. dang, didn't I just advocate delivering a short sweet message with as few words as necessary.. *sigh*

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