A Political Time Out


Dear Internet Political Junkie:

On behalf of everyone else on the planet, I am officially placing you in “time out.”

You are hereby ORDERED to refrain from commenting on politics or discussing political and/or social policy, candidates, or events until such time as the next major U.S. election has passed.

And while we agree that this outcome is not merely a shame but a damn shame – and that it indeed could be interpreted as infringing upon the right of political speech that the founders of this nation held so dear – we believe it is an exceedingly better result and punishment that the available alternatives.

You should have heard what the Swedes wanted to do to you. Yikes!

After reviewing all the facts and the extensive online comment record you have amassed, we have come to the conclusion that despite your avowed love of politics, you really do not know what “politics” means.

We even went so far as to consult with your own mother, and she readily agreed that you should be placed into “time out” for your inexcusably reprehensible behavior. In fact, your poor, poor Ma – crying all the while – apologized profusely and tried to assure us that she raised you better than the record shows. We therefore withhold judgment on her child-rearing ability at this time.

What the record shows, my dear Internet Political Junkie, is a long and sullied history of online behavior incompatible with any kind of civil social discussion. In any life context that lacked the anonymity of the internet, you would have been beaten up or institutionalized long ago. Maybe even both.

In fact, one medical expert we consulted “cannot say to a  medical certainty” that you are not suffering from schizophrenia, non-specific delusion disorders, anger issues, and/or the dreaded Tourette’s Syndrome.

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Let’s briefly review the record, shall we?

1.         Pathological name-calling.   When we went through and removed the words “communist,” “fascist,” “Marxist,” “America-hater,” “idiot,” “asshole,” “redneck,” “racist,” “faggot,” “homophobe,” “religious nut,” and “lazy welfare bitch” from the collected record of your comments, we were left with, well… nothing at all but a random series of words like “I,” “you are” and “the”. Certainly nothing of substance.

And for reasons that continue to elude us, most of these phrases were inexplicably typed using all capital letters.

It should also be noted that the epithets were used against individuals you had never previously engaged in communication with and frankly appeared to be aimed at a someone or someones other than your specific insult victim of the moment.

2.         Over-protectiveness of “your” candidate. We checked and we double-checked – rummaged around the old termite-infested family tree quite a bit, to be honest, and we are now able to say beyond all reasonable doubt that your chosen candidate of this political season is absolutely, positively NOT your father, mother, grandfather, grandmother, son, daughter, boyfriend, girlfriend, or dog.

And this, my friend, makes your visceral, knee-jerk, temper tantrum reactions to even the most tepid of criticisms of said candidate all the more irrational. So calm down: no one is kicking your grandma in the stomach when they question “your” candidate’s fitness for office.

3.         Extreme overuse of the term “outrage.”  Everything cannot possibly outrage you. Furthermore, every story on television and in the newspaper of record is NOT a liberal/conservative conspiracy that further proves “what you’ve been saying all along.”

If you suspect that we’re wrong on either of these points, please refer back to our tentative diagnoses of schizophrenia, non-specific delusional disorder, anger issues, and/or the dreaded Tourette’s Syndrome, above.

4.         Extreme overestimation of your online importance.  Let’s face facts: You know and I know that roughly twelve people read your blog and/or blog comments with any regularity and only about half of those ever respond. And not one of those people can possibly be described as an “undecided” voter. The fate of the country, outcome of the election, or state of others’ souls does not depend on you.

And thank your lucky stars it doesn’t depend on you, because your randomly-hurled insults are not designed to persuade or convince, but rather merely to insult from safely behind your anonymous keyboard.

You see, in a democratic republic such as our own is said to be, politics is about making a difference in your community. It is about working with others to come to an agreement on the sort of society we can all live in. 

What you are doing is therefore absolutely NOT politics. Hard as it is to believe, a hissy fit is not the same as a political discussion. What you are doing doesn’t bear an even passing resemblance to politics.

Maybe you don’t even actually like politics. Have you considered that?

Maybe you just need someone to yell at because that girl turned you down for a date a few weeks back and you didn’t get that promotion you thought you deserved.

We’ve gone to great lengths to try and figure out your motivation, but it’s hard to tell.

THEREFORE, for all of the above reasons and so very much more, it is ORDERED AND ADJUDICATED that you, INTERNET POLITICAL JUNKIE, are hereby placed in “time out” for the duration of the campaign and PROHIBITED from commenting on politics or discussing political and/or social policy, candidates, or events until such time as the next major U.S. election has passed.

You should proceed immediately to the nearest corner of the room and stand there, thinking about what you have done, until at least fifteen minutes AFTER Wolf Blitzer says on the air, “CNN is now prepared to project a winner in the 2008 Presidential race.”

Thank you for your cooperation in this matter. We would be more than happy to have a discussion of relevant political and social issues at such future time as you find yourself capable of holding such a discussion.

Sincerely,


Everyone
 
P.S. Yes, yes, we are only too well aware that we are stinking communists/fascists who are all the same and taking this country to hell in a handbasket.


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Comments

  1. plato's allegory of the cave is how I feel about last night

    Thank you.

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  2. As the friend of Adri who has portrayed charachters the last two weeks,

    I proudly show up to support the above poster in the comments made.

    -Plato

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  3. But what if the "pleasegoaway" charachter *is* the charachter guy?

    Would he be showing up to agree with himself?

    Such a sophisticated joke would only make sense if one knew in fact the identity of the charachter guy.

    Sometimes a joke is just a joke,

    a bad one, what if charachter guy is also dr freud?

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  4. *sigh* So, we do you propose we do with the extremists during the next 5 weeks? Lock them in a vault? Get their IPs banned? Tell the Missouri attorney general they have defamed Barack Obama?

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  5. As an update to your demand to stand in the corner .. we have a problem here, Houston. Since your blog entry I'm having a helluva time finding an empty corner! Maybe we could take one of those big sports stadiums, seems like there was an Astro Dome in your fair city at one time, but if it's not there now, perhaps New Orleans will loan us the Stupid Dome ... oops I mean Super Dome. With a minimum of construction, a series of cubicles could be placed throughout the dome transforming it into a place full of cubes instead of a place full of rounds. Depending on how creative you are, each cubicle could have as many as 4 corners unless you are into trapezoids or some other freakazoid aberration of nature which we all know Jesus despises because they are positively unmerican and are absolutely known to be a hotbed of them tourists Home Land Security has been chasing since them tourists knocked down them two towers up there in Rhode Island. In any event, depending on the size of the cubicles, we could create a lot of corners in which to go stand.

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  6. Good to see that the great philosopers are still debating on Adri's blog.
    Was it Plato who said, "To do is to be." Or Aristotle?
    Maybe Plato said "To be is to do."

    One thing is certain, however it was Sir Francis Albert who said "Doooo be dooobe dooooo..."

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  7. Presidential debates and award shows: for years, I watched them and afterwards, always wondered why.

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  8. It's like looking into the reflection of a reflection in a mirror, Dr. Freud. I can see forever in the feedback...

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  9. I don't mind political extremists. In fact, it's arguable that I am one.

    What I'm talking about is the "All you people suck" crowd.

    It's the difference between my Multiply friend deletefrance - who is merely a delightful extremist - and blackcatz, who just goes around using politics as an excuse to go around cussing and insulting people he doesn't know.

    And I don't know WHAT you can really do about that troll type. Once the parenting has gone awry, it might already be too late to work them back into society.

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  10. I hear you there. Both people seeing which lies... uh... I mean promises they can convince people of that they don't intend to keep or wouldn't even have the power to keep if they WERE elected.

    I've had some fun in Robust Debate, though. I still like stirring the pot, though. haha

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  11. Unfortunately, it's those extremists who turn election time into a George Carlin vs Don Rickles skit.

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  12. You're just saying that so I'll put out again.

    Oops! Did I say that out loud?

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  13. That's funny. The debate was boring for the first half hour an then BAM!!!

    I thought lawyers worked to the bitter end to defend their client. Except for
    the code of ethics they are bound by and need to adhere to or else get a stern chat from
    a Judge , are we political animals any different? Agreed, this is and has been an ugly
    campaign season. Longer than usual and far more emotional than normal. But what is
    normal in politics ?
    Thank you and have a pleasant weekend.

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  14. Haha... Yes, we're going to need rooms in shapes with multiple corners, definitely.

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  15. Hey, Heather! Good to see ya around...

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  16. I quit that one.

    I'd really like to find somewhere where they have political discussions.

    I mean, I already have ways to blow off steam if I just want to shout insults at someone. It's why i keep paintedtorrent around...

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  17. well ahhhh yes ma-am i was... LOL ,........ hugs

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  18. You have a point. I tend towards the left on the big issues, and I am actually so embarressed when I hear Bill Maher talk that I am forced to change the channel.

    At the same time, there have been extreme folks from all sides capable of compelling discussion: Ayn Rand, Leo Strauss, Antonin Scalia on the right, Noam Chomsky, William Douglas, Thomas Paine on the Left. I never saw Ayn Rand or Noam Chomsky tell someone "You suck!"

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  19. I hate to see folks who culd otherwise get along cuss at each other merely because they disagree on which frankly similar candidate they support that year...

    Also, blog folks aren't generally getting paid to go out and act like one side has all the answers and the other side none.

    Who is so boring and uncreative that they allow themself to be pigeonholed in one of two predefined camps?

    I don't know. 5 weeks to go...

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  20. Adri, the unfortunate thing is that most of these yahoos don't even bother to really learn anything about the candidates or the issues, but play the loyal sheep to the heads of their parties, and bleat out whatever the latest vitriol they are programmed to repeat.

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  21. ok seriously you have people (liberals) who are radically against John McCain and yet John McCain is a Democrat and a Liberal. i think this coincides with what yetanotherguy is saying.

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  22. I'm scared to death of the censors and thought police who are operating within the Obama campaign, and TERRIFIED that Sarah Palin would get her hands on the U.S. surveillance apparati.

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  23. It is very different, for me personally, boots on the ground campaigning door to door etc.
    Blogging a campaign is a new thing. Seemed appropriate to back one candidate. It has
    not been much fun. Counting the days til it is done. No matter how it ends up. Praying it
    is not a tie or dispute that keeps us lingering into December.
    On the campaign trail the most successful style face to face is listen and present information.
    Here it evolved into a type of beast all it's own. All over this place.
    Your blog is very clever. Doubtful it will calm down with the stakes so high. The race
    so close. But good sentiments, I appreciate the humor.

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  24. I think both major party candidates are very much within what is considered the political mainstream of American politics. Which doesn't necessarily correspond to what i would call "centrist," but still. I mean, neither is saying anything vastly different on the financial bailout, for instance.

    People can and should still argue over the differences!

    But jeez, you know... I'm just saying maybe chill out with the hissy fits.

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  25. We keep the special padded room clean and vacant just for you, Cody! ;-)

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  26. Absolutely, and we should do it zealously, with passion! My thought with the blog here was that ideas convince people more than insults and tantrums. Neither of which has anything to do REALLY with politics.

    I know, you're right - it's too much to ask.

    But I'm a dreamer...

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  27. I just don't put much faith in there being a bunch of fence sitters in blogosphere and particularly in political groups.

    I've seen a few minds that are pliable. But most people I've encountered are ready to dig in their heels to defend their positions.

    I think once someone has made it aware they're politically minded at all.... their mind is generally made up already.

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  28. There's the rub: You're largely preaching to the choir (and the militant anti-choir) on political blogs.

    Everybody else is out living their lives or surfing for internet porn.

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  29. Politics isn't porn?

    I feel better about myself already.

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  30. Hes been banned from many of our pages. Im surprised hes just getting to yours :) Hes an idiot and sh*tstirrer thats all.

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  31. No, porn always makes me feel better for at least a little while, and politics doesn't. Then again, maybe it's more what I'm doing during the porn...

    Let's just say porn doesn't make the ulcer act up like politics does.

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  32. Haven't seen him for a while anywhere, come to think of it.... But he was the first example that came to mind.

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  33. Exactly! Which is why when I know the extremists will desend upon my page I now close the comments , they can read but not respond on my page. Let them blow up elsewhere, Im tired of it! And Im tired of those who have to force you to see it their way by making your page a dumping ground of videos and links. I dont mind decent discussion but anything else to me becomes radical. So Ill snip em where it hurts if they do that on my pages now!

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  34. I will be happy as a clam either way as long as it won't be Bush again.

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  35. Well, while I can say that I agree with your post, I am amazed at the ignorance of my fellow Americans. Their voices are ever-more-shrill; no one is listening, and everyone's as polarized as my damn Grandma's old camera.

    That said, after the snippets of last night's debate, I really think I'm going to vote for Paul.

    I've no use for either one of the 'majors'.

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  36. replyednabambrick


    speaking of shitstirrer.

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  37. I don't talk politics...I do vote...I wait til the last week to get all the facts about the candidates then I flip a coin.

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  38. Pure probability may serve better than analysis in this election cycle.

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  39. On the other hand, these views that you want to rule off limits Adri are of great use to the authorities, should the worst come to the worst. Therefore the community might be best served by encouraging people to speak their minds.

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  40. Jefferson was right - a little revolution every now and again is a good thing.....

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  41. Ive been saying for quite awhile now I feel another American revolution in the wind.

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  42. We could do it bloodlessly if all the sheep who never vote went out and voted in a third party candidate.

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  43. Nonsense makes the best hamburgers.

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  44. Haha! Just type a single word, like "Abortion," and then close the comments so they have to sit on their hands.

    Wasn't that one of those torturous punishments in the Hades afterlife in Greek myth?

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  45. Well I know that punishment works on Italians!!! giggle (and dont go jumping on me for saying that people I married one, gave birth to two and live with another so I know!)

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  46. For the first time in my lifetime, there is not a Bush, Dole, or Nixon to be seen on the GOP ticket...

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  47. I have never voted for one of the majors for Prez, and that's saying something in Texas, where they make sure the minors have a tough time getting on.

    Granted, I'm also in Texas, where they might as well go ahead and assign their electoral votes now and get it over with...

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  48. A couple election cycles back, some university had a monkey who they would show pictures of candidates to, and the monkey had a 65% accuracy rate in projecting the winner.

    The best of the television personalities has about a 25% accuracy rate in predicting the winner.

    Which means that Hannity & Colmes could be replaced by a monkey and you'd have a better ideas what is going on. And the monkey would work for 1/2 the salary... (And yes, I'm ignoring the fact that Fox replaced Colmes with a baboon in 2003 and no one noticed...)

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  49. Yet I don't know if there's EVER been a revolution conducted by a majority ANYWHERE.

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  50. I'm an absolutist when it comes to free speech.

    Here, I was mainly talking about not having temper tantrums, as opposed to encouraging censorship.

    Everyone should speak their minds. However, in the marketplace of ideas, not every idea is going to be fit enough to be heard... Or something...

    By this measure, of course, I'm not sure how "You suck" and "You should be silenced" continues to spread like wildfire.

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  51. So am I. I'm also a strict Constitutionalist (which you've already guessed).

    Shoot me. It's the benefit of a liberal-arts education to the masters-level.

    Temper tantrums are fun to watch, though.....

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  52. No . . . but there ought to be some sort of administrative disciplinary measures for writing an umpty million page political tract and claiming it's fiction. Ayn Rand gives me a headache. As do many of her adherents, who I've found to be about as open to reasonable discussion as Southern Baptists. At least Southern Baptists will feed you good food while they're telling you you're going to hell.

    Awesome post, btw.

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  53. It is probably more humane to regard these activities as "temper tantrums". I only wanted to point out that this might not be how they might be regarded by everyone, especially the authorities. I realize that I am at no risk of being understood by these people - you know, the ones who post public tirades against big government monitoring the internet.

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  54. I have this elitist and competitive nature that comes peeking out at times where I feel the need to win every argument.

    But you can't online. There are always going to be folks who are flaming trolls and who, when you finally tire of their crap, are going to say it just proves that you can't stand up to their edgy, edgy thinking.

    Haha... and then there are the folks who think everytime they have a little trouble logging on,. it means that the powers-that-be are trying to silence them.

    I definitely need to write a bestiary of internet species...

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  55. Internet objectivists scare me a little bit, haha.

    I am fascinated by Rand's philosophy because it is the antithesis of mine, for the most part. I haven't read "Atlas Shrugged" or "The Fountainhead," because, well, they've turned so many people off over the years.

    I have some philosophy books by her, though. One in which her disciple Alan Greenspan writes a section. Presumably, he changed his mind about government interference in the economy sometime before he headed the Federal Reserve...

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  56. go great with Country Bob's All Purpose Sauce!

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  57. So with you being in law yourself when are you going to get into a political race?

    Or are you saving yourself for marriage?

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  58. They can't stand the idea that they've already proven themselves incapable of... well... of having an original thought, and I, too get REALLY tired of them repeating the same thing, over and over, and over, and over, and over...

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  59. No, I very much have to disagree. Temper tantrums are rarely fun to watch.
    However, as with so many behaviours, the fact that there is an audience, and often a pro-active audience, the Tantrum behaviour is prevalent on-line.

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  60. Haha... Not having to appeal to 51% of the public to keep my job is very valuable to me. I can say or do any old crazy thing and not have to run it by a focus group first...

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  61. The Sanitarium is your Focus Group. And we work for free.

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  62. The grass is greener where the green is? Heh.

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  63. Oh yeaaaaaaaa thats a great idea. She runs the sanitarium , she could run this crazy country! Just imagine the drug perks ....hehehehe

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  64. "running" it is a bit of a reach... mending the fences might be more like it.

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  65. it's all about The Cinema Show .... trust me

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  66. thanks. i gave up online politics for the bread line. i woulda opted for the conga line, but it was full of the "all you people suck" crowd. can't help with the children, but i believe in corporal punishment . . . time outs just never worked. :)

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  67. Once upon a time Patience was a virtue. Now She requires a co-pay.

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  68. My brother has a kid and they do time-out with him. I'd never seen it before that.

    The kid was playing with the television one day and Jeff yelled at him. He went and stood in the hallway crying.

    "What the hell just happened?" I asked.
    "He thinks he's in time out."
    "Oh."

    I dunno. Children are WAY outside my area of expertise.

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  69. Although his picture does make a very cogent argument.

    Wait, doesn't it?

    Well, maybe not THAT picture, but Edna is the political mind of the century and not at all what I was complaining about in the blog!

    Wait, was he?

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  70. You make flaming trolls sound... delicious!

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  71. Haha... I'm pretty sure this blog would haunt me if I ever tried to run for dog catcher...

    But I WOULD theoretically have some sway over the Food and Drug Administration as President, wouldn't I?

    Hmmm...

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  72. Over on Fabienne's page, I forwarded the suggestion that if I ran for President, I'd pick either her, or you, as my running mate - or better yet, YOU can run for Pres -- I'll be VP; it pays well and I wouldn't have to do a damn thing.

    Of course, I'd say "HORSESHIT!" at the top of my lungs any time I damn well pleased.....

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  73. Word on Wall Street is that Horseshit Futures are going to be big ...

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  74. But at the same time.. there will be no 'shorting' of horseshit.

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  75. and mine. bless those who have them and can tolerate them. i used myself as an example of why not to have children. so i don't. :)

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  76. As long as I don't have to drink the party Kool-Aid, I'd be up for Veep.

    I can't promise you I'd be a particularly good VP, of course. I might even, you know, shoot someone in the face. Seriously, it could happen, and not just birdshot: I hope that doesn't disqualify me.

    It doesn't? Good.

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  77. Now, when it comes to NOT having children, I might be an expert on that...

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  78. Move over, Adri. *I'm* the expert at not breeding. I'm older than you, and have plenty of experience at keeping now-ex-wives and girlfriends alike from exercising their reproductive imprimatur at my expense.

    (As to shooting someone in the face for the helluvit - well; I'll give you that. Cheerfully; even....)

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  79. Thank you Adri! You really covered all the bases on this one! Very nice, thanks again.

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  80. "can't we all just be right, quietly, surrounded by the supportive practitioners of our own beliefs? spic and span -iacs and mop 'n glo-o-nauts all buying mops at walmart without pushing and shoving, each to be lauded for their common american desire to have clean floors? oh sure, we all know that a spic and span floor has a certain something about it, a cleanliness that even John Wesley would admire, but, irregardless of that, we all come together in a mutual recognition of the cleanliness which is next to godliness, a celebration of the new american spirit and a condemnation of the slovenliness in appearance or habitation that all right thinking people can agree is the root of evil." -- excerpted from the 'manifesto for a new american spirit'

    (spic & span is a registered copyright of prestige brands, inc. which neither approves or disapproves this message, please see its web site for investment information)

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  81. WOULD SOMEONE HELP ME GET UP OFF THE FLOOR PLEASE.... I HAVENT LAUGHTED SO HARD IN A WHILE!!!

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  82. Thank you!

    Usually I only talk about politics in allegories.

    But I've been called names and/or blockied one too many times this week...

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  83. We all live in our own reality tunnels with skewed perceptions. Cha, cha, cha....Charmin!

    Brilliant Adri! Carry on my good woman....

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  84. White picket fence, nice suburban home, 2.6 children and a clean floor.

    What more could one ever want from the American dream?

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  85. Thank you!

    Anyone who successfully uses "reality tunnel" in a sentence scores some points in that strange book of accounts in my head... ;-)

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  86. Talk about shadows on the cave wall..........

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  87. I'm F^&*ing OUTRAGED! You Commie Faggot Homohobic Welfare Bitch-like Religious NUT!!

    Or...in other words

    I'm You?

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  88. on the other hand, she does seem to have a grasp of foreign policy that equals or exceeds govenor palin's. in fact, she has the core foreign policy instincts of vp cheney (war against iraq and iran, war against the arab world, "they" are cutting the heads off american solidiers, domestic profiling of citizens for potential enemies, are the ones i spotted). perhaps sen mccain should be rethinking his vp pick.

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  89. so much truth in that sentence . . . :)

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  90. "Dear Internet Political Junkie:




    On behalf of everyone else on the planet, I am officially placing you in “time out.”

    Damn straight. And let's make sure those political internet junkies get no internet advertising of lawyer firmsw as they do their google searches about "how fucked am i because someone saw me smoking a joint?"

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  91. Money always seems to trump ideals eventually...

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  92. This picture just made my opinion of the governor skyrocket.

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  93. Some folks are going to be fun to listen regardless of what they say, though.

    I'd like to hear what she has to say about the later works of Martin Scorsese and global warming, actually...

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  94. You can be outraged for me today.

    Some days, I just don't have the energy to get mad about everything.

    I hereby dub thee my anger proxy.

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  95. Holy shit. That woman embarassed me, and I don't know her.

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  96. That reminds me of these so-called "smart ads" on Multiply that crack me up.

    Folks get mad because they bitch about gays or Muslims on their blogs all day, and get gay and Muslim-related ads on their page.

    Speaking of joints... Never mind, I'll be back in a few...

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  97. People that ignorant scare me to no end -- because they represent a huge portion of this population. Too dumb to vote.

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  98. Haha... yeah, no clue. I do a lot of free legal work for people who are... well, white trash, basically. And one-on-one, I'm usually okay with anyone. One-on-one, people are good.

    I don't know what you do with folks who are truly incapable of a certain level of understanding and education. Many are able to hold down productive jobs and lives.

    And as for voting, you just hope that they represent the lowest 1% instead of the lowest 35%.

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  99. Not in Michigan they aren't. The smartest people you meet are running cash registers at Taco Bell here. We're the harbinger of America's future here.

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  100. In all fairness to the woman in the video, she was very drunk and the two men with her promptly took her inside and had their way with her. Sadly I cant post the video of that here but it wasn't any prettier.

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  101. That reminds me of Randy Newman's "It's Money That Matters":

    "Of all of the people that I used to know
    Most never adjusted to the great big world...
    All of these people are much brighter than I
    In any fair system they would flourish and thrive
    But they barely survive
    They eke out a living
    And they barely survive."

    I'm not an expert on Michigan, but it sounds like they've had it worse than many other areas since the Reagan years...

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  102. I have only very rarely been able to use alcohol and drug use as an excuse for bad behavior.

    I mean, I've tried to explain the Enron collapse and a couple natural disasters away with that defense... No dice.

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  103. Wait a minute... You're not also Lachlann, are you?

    I KNEW only one person read this page...

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  104. Amen.

    I almost cannot stand going on line anymore, and heaven forbid I read anything where there is a comment section. Simple economics articles on the WSJ turn into slander matches, where frankly both sides sound like idiots.

    There is plenty of blame to go around for everything, and no one has the magic bullet to fix everything. I've gotten to the point where I just don't care anymore, I just want it to be over. I really don't care if the other side wins, I just want to get it over with at this point. It's like we're standing in the middle of a casino, with all the noise and lights and distractions, and you just want to get outside to the cool night air, but you're trapped in place.

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  105. I am beginning to realize the value of NOT having an opinion on every little thing.

    Seriously.

    A few months ago, a bunch of people were attacking... I think they were attacking Katie Couric. I realized that I don't want to have an opinion on Katie Couric.

    It just doesn't matter enough.

    Watching the ants crawl across my windowsill is infinitely more interesting. And I'm not insulting the ants here - they really ARE more interesting.

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  106. I was going to try to do a parody of the political rant on the ants, and type stuff like "ANTS ARE COMMIES AND SINCE YOU LIKE COMMIES YOU MUST BE VOTING FOR THAT COMMIE BASTARD OBAMA"

    But, I don't have that much energy this morning, and I wasn't really sure anyone would get it.

    PS - Red ants are really commie bastards.

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  107. Actually... wow, they kind of are.

    Hive mentality. They split things up in the colony instead of letting any one ant really enjoy the fruits of their labor.

    You never see a worker ant splitting off from the line of workers and starting his own company...

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  108. thank goodness someone finally said it... thanks Adri..

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  109. Hey there, Herb!

    I know I said I was going to stay away from political topics on the blog, but this seems more about social networking than politics per se.

    If I get so presumptous as to post an endorsement of any candidate, you're allowed to take me out into a field and shoot me...

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  110. yep, sometimes it is necessary to get to the root of all evil.

    p.p.s.: fire ants are the most commie bastards of ants. taking nothing away from army ants who prolly would lose the big fight.

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  111. I think fireants are beyond communism. If humans ever set up a form of government equivalent to fire ants, even I would advocate all sorts of pre-emptive strikes that I would never otherwise advocate...

    I go up north, and it's possible to, you know, lie in the grass and stuff without being nearly killed... Bastards.

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  112. I will take you up on this since Houston and the surrounding suburbs are only a few hours away... And, I like hunting... if done the right way and with the right equipment.

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  113. Up here in the semi Great White North, we have our share of political activists of all stripes and some stink so much they have a pair of white stripes running over thier shoulders down over their rounded ASSets and they're proud of it! makes u wonder. We have a socialist, a semi-socialist and a conservative running for our top position on Oct 14, Prime Minister! I'm just going to close my eyes and hope a skunk doesn't win! and it's nice to see your back Adri, but I'd sooner see your front, you have such nice eyes!

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  114. Haha... I don't think you'll need to. I'm pretty damn sure I can restrain myself from endorsing anyone. To endorse might actually be a harder challenge this year.

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  115. Hey, it's Steve!

    I'm starting to think a parliamentary system might work better than the current system down here.

    Well, maybe a benign dictatorship, actually...

    Ugh. A politician can call himself a moderate, a radical, a fascist, for all I care. But if he's spending his time hitting me in the ehad with a hammer, I'm going to pay less time owrrying about the label than attempting to stop him from hitting me.

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  116. "It's the economy, stupid!"

    Jim Cramer just said the D word:

    Depression.

    Yaaahooo!!! Where are all my communist friends up here on this blog page? Adri may still have that hammer that has been hitting her head. All we need now is to find that sickle. Now where did we leave it at last? Cuba?

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  117. Well, I used hyperbole a lot when I was on cocaine, too.

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  118. No way! Jim? He is such a common folks' guy, he can't be, you are pulling my leg, the hooked one even.

    Wow, 666 points off Dow!! Our day is here. Folks, let's roll. You know all the fat cats who keep their money at Washington Mutual took out $16 Billion of their cash from that bank last week. Now you don't think they are the type of depositors who have LESS than $100K FDIC ensures balances in their bank accounts, do you?! So I say we hit the rich neighborhoods and head straight to their mattresses; they must be piled a yard high with all that cash. I say we redistribute those wealth to the dislocated hurricane victims who are still homeless. We will solve this housing and financial crisis for everyone in one move.

    715 points!! What are you'all waiting for?!

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  119. Lest I be misunderstood, I am not saying that Jim Cramer is on cocaine. I'm just saying he acts exactly like someone who has been on a weeks-long cocaine binge.

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  120. Based upon my understanding of the candidates, what has been presented to the viewers and what opportunities there are out there to gain additional insight, I would have to agree. Not to get political, because we all know I would lose that fight, but it seems that the media is doing its normal every day run of the mill and filtering those comments that only they would rather us hear or pictures that they would rather us see. Is there any one group out there that actually tells it like it is outside of this BLOG? What ever happened to truth?? Can I get a little piece of that down here??

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  121. Now you are just insulting our people's hero, like all capitalist would on this day in order to divert attention from the market's 777 point crash.

    But still, on this day, I bet there are more clients of yours in pain over the loss of their money due to their own greed, than the impact, if any, your assistants and receptionists would feel. Payback time, huh? How sweet!

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  122. People might as well take a "time out" from politics considering the general level of political discussion. Lies, half-truths, rumors and expression of hatred seem to be the biggest result of such activity... shredding what perspective of reality anyone might have concerning contemporary political issues. But then, I can't help but speculate myself, admitting all the while that I really don't know anything. I will admit though, I take plenty of time-outs, for life is more about simple existence rather than large issues no one can fully comprehend.

    I almost forgot to say (but I didn't forget, ultimately), that this was a good blog and I truly enjoyed it. Thanks for posting!

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  123. Speaking of which, is it possible to force the cast of SNL to go on a weeks long cocaine binge, so maybe, just maybe, after 30 years, the fricking show will be funny again?

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  124. Rather startling and amusing to think of The Sanitarium as a time-out. The occasional tea spoon full of large issue vigorously stirred into ones simple existence. Just the way Life should be. A mark of that ever ephemeral 'Success.'

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  125. Probably, yeah... The media is all about advertising. They don't want advertisers to get scared or complain, in the end. So I think they choose to stick to the tried and true.

    Years ago, I did some political activism. It was hard for us loonies to get into the paper of record in Houston. But once, we flew in a high profile politician into the city, and it got some attention. I wrote the press release, which they printed completely unabridged.

    Actually, they took out the line where we attacked the corporate media...

    People are lazy everywhere. If the easy way gets them the money, they'll just choose the easy way...

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  126. That reminds me of a sketch I found that I SHOULD have posted in this entry:

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  127. that is just funny as hell! thanks. it works perfectly! :))

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  128. I am 31 years old. I watched SNL regularly from 1988 until about 2001. I watched a lot of bad episodes during that time. But I just can't subject myself to any more.

    You're right - they were better when their cast was on drugs.

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  129. That sketch is a good illustration of how someone can certainly get their priorities skewed by wrangling online all the time.

    Lately I have been taking more of a break from online, and doing real life activities more... that is, unless I am at work like I am now...LOL

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  130. I recognize addiction in myself when it happens.

    And after the hurricane when everything was down? Yeah. I was in some serious withdrawals. It's lucky my workplace got up and running quickly, or I might have had to break into someone's house for it...

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  131. Oh, have no fear: the poor get screwed during every economic downturn.

    Look at the big one that occurred in 1982. The hurt focused that time on the poor and working class (especially mid-western rust belt types) and that recession has been written out of history.

    But at the beginning of the next decade, the rich felt the recession and we booted George Bush I out of office.

    It's almost like the working class doesn't write the history books...

    (That having been said, YES, my corporate clients seem a bit uncomfortable today)

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  132. Well that's why the poor have a lot of kids. It's nature's way to stick it to the rich.

    The Soviets were right all along, quantity over quality. Half a trillion dollars and Bush is still stuck in the shit bucket of Iraq. But you get some rusty T72s and five full combat divisions on a province smaller than Bush's ranch called Georgia, total victory in three days. Man, we Americans are pathetic idiots.

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  133. Well see, if I don't have the internet or my computer, there are always my musical instruments, which keep me going as much (or perhaps more) than the internet does... So when I lost power for several days during the hurricane, I did not go crazy in the slightest... I just practiced the banjo in the dark and got the feel for the fretboard...

    But believe me, I know what you mean...LOL

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  134. Um, yeah, that's sticking it to the man: "You think it's hard for a couple to live on $30K a year? Watch us and our ten kids try and get by on that much!!!"

    By the way: Although some of our behavior might be considered pathetic and/or idiotic, I don't really consider myself or my fellow Americans to be pathetic idiots. Except maybe those three in the clip ednabambrick posted yesterday...

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  135. Two good things happened because of the hurricane:

    1. I discovered I have neighbors! Who knew?

    2. As an indirect result of the storm, I stumbled upon imeem.com, which in itself was really worth all the death and destruction.

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  136. I just hope everyone didn't go and spend their whole tax refund already, you'll might need some of it coming up here.

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  137. No, no, you misunderstood me completely.

    I mean that nature has its way to crowd out the rich and kill them off by sheer numbers.

    1. The poor will have more votes, eventually.

    2. The poor will have enough bodies to be the suicide bombers and win the next revolution, especially with the help of the second Amendment.

    3. The poor will always have the option to thin out the gene pool of the rich by marrying their daughters. Oh, you guys had no idea? C'mon, be honest, you mean you actually like Paris Hilton?!

    So, there will be justice in every day and age. Now you know why the Republicans are against immigration, welfare, education, and public healthcare in general. The fight never ends.

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  138. Yeah, I'm afraid I don't really know my neighbors. But they keep changing!

    I just looked at that site... imeem.com... looks pretty cool...

    Lots of times something positive comes out of something negative, and vice versa. Makes one wonder what the apprehension about everything is all about, doesn't it?

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  139. Ha. At the very least, we can safely say that bad times are going to keep happening so we shouldn't expect anyone to protect us from them.

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  140. I was a good girl and invested my tax rebate...

    Oh, wait...

    D'oh!

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  141. Well, I think it is safe to say that the lower 95% at the very least have significantly more votes than the rich do, right? Yet that's rarely helped in the past.

    Like I said elsewhere in these comments, a majority has never been responsible for a revolution. Don't wait for them. They're going to sit on the fence until the winner is clear.

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  142. Yes, but this is where and why isms, like religions, are so crucial for the rich and powerful, because they give the 5% the power to fool and intoxicate the 95% into inaction. You have heard "golden handcuff" or "religion is the opium for the masses", plus, people's own individual greed at "lower taxes" or "not in my neighborhood" has certainly came in handy when the rich and powerful needed to control the masses to remain their slaves for many generations to come.

    It is so laughable that the Republicans, most of whom are among the 95% exploited and suppressed, would again and again hand power over to the 5% of whom Bush and Paulson represent. This $700B crap is nothing other than Bush, like the latest Anti-Robin Hood that he is, robbing the poor to give to the rich. When manufacturing plants fail and jobs move to Mexico and China, it is free market economics; but when his banker buddies call to tell him that they run out of OUR MONEY to screw with, so they won't get their million-dollar-bonus this year, man, we can't have that!

    “Liquidity” and “credit” my ass!

    We have less than $100K in our checking accounts, so what the hell is the problem?! Is Wal-Mart refusing to take my money today? Are Target, Chevron, GE, or Sally's Hair Salon going to close shops and lay off all their workers just because their bosses’ investment in some risky REITs and Credit Default Swaps became worthless six months ago? Why the Dow only lost 777 points yesterday and not 10,000 points?

    I just hope that the revolting Republicans in Congress have now finally realized that their true enemy in life are not the Democrats, but the 5% among them sitting in the WH and on Wall Street.

    Isn't it funny that these stalwarts of the conservative ideal, the religious right, the free-market champions, would so passionately pursue the unGodly intervention of government central planning and control? Did Bush get his tiny brain bleached red when he was sitting at the Olympics last month? If Bush and Paulson were real God-fearing men, they would have put a bullet in their head by now.

    Oh, I forgot, they must had put a crisp twenty in the collection plate this past Sunday, so all their sins were washed away, and they are free to commit new ones as we speak.

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  143. It is possible that bad times might have a positive impact on our society in unforeseen ways. Perhaps it will be the impetus for local communities to band together for a common cause. Perhaps it will be better if people cannot afford more consumer items and have to rely on a sense of inventiveness.

    I have a feeling that the coming recession will not bring about 25% unemployment and soup lines like the Great Depression did. If people are not totally kept down, then it is possible that a new and more rewarding lifestyle might occur.

    Of course, it is also possible that a major war might happen in the wake of a major economic contraction, or that the government might become more repressive.

    It's okay, I'll still have my banjo.

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  144. Yea, you're so right, that's why the Russian stock market has lost over half it's value since then, they have received almost universal international condemnation for what they did, and it exposed to all of the prying eyes in the west that, yes, their military still actually sucks big time.

    It is really impressive that when you roll up tanks on basically a heavily armed police force and kick the shit out of them. Yep, really proves the superiority of your economic & political system over those bastard Americans.

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  145. You know what I love? The fact that to at least half of America, Bush is an idiot, but he’s also responsible for absolutely everything that is wrong in America. I don’t get it. Is he an idiot, or is he the smartest, most manipulative, conniving bastard in the world? How is it that one man, who many view as a bumbling fool, single handedly ruin the world in less than 8 years?

    I’m sure, at some point, someone is going to point out to me how Bush forced millions and millions of people who were not qualified to own a home, to go out into the market , purchase a home that was beyond their means and take out an excessive mortgage that they were never, ever going to be able to repay. Sure, it wasn’t their own individual greed that helped get us to here, it was the greed of Bush and his cronies.

    I’m also waiting for someone to explain to me how Bush, yes, we’re still talking about he of the “tiny brain” connived and then forced the congress in 2003 to pass legislation loosening Fannie & Freddie’s lending standards, which opened the flood gates for all of these sub-prime and Alt-A loans. Of course, it was all his fault, and none of the fault can be laid at the feet of the “9% approval rating” congress.

    I could go on to the other two legs of this mess, but why bother, right? We all know it’s that idiot’s fault, right? Dumb as a fucking fox, I guess.

    Now, on a different tack, I may only be a product of the New York State public educational system, but I’m pretty sure that in nature, only the strong survive. The strong ones are the successful ones, not the poor & down trodden. Nature doesn’t crowd out the rich, and reward the weak, it’s just the opposite.

    But the poor can have their pie, and see where that gets them.

    I'll go back to my time out now. Adri, if you want to spank me over breaking my time out, I may actually be interested. Let me know.

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  146. There was all that talk of an "ownership society"...


    But in fairness, the push to increase home ownership started in the Clinton Administration and continued in the Bush Administration.

    In hindsight, all these new home starts, and the exurbs, and turning farmland into subdivisions, and the longer commutes to work, and the headaches associated with them, doesn't look to good right now, does it.

    What I feared during this housing boom wasn't the failing of these sub-prime mortgages as much as the run up in housing prices allowed people to refinance to tap the equity and spend spend spend, keeping the economy humming along during the tail end of the Clinton Administration, allowing us to pull out of the 9/11 aftereffects. Now that easy money is dried up, and the ones that overreached the most are in trouble.

    In full disclosure, I have to admit that when my wife became ill and unable to work, I refinanced the mortgage to gain some of the equity my house gained in the early 2000's, to pay off debt. When she was unable to return to work, our financial situation stayed bad, and now I'm struggling month to month to make the payment on my reset sub-prime mortgage. I've been making it, barely, eeking out the payments on the 1896 sq foot house for my family of 4. Not a McMansion by any stretch of the imagination. The worst thing is, every spare dollar goes into the mortgage, so I'm not able to invest (ummm, no comment) anything into potential retirement, paying down debt faster (although I'm down to just an auto loan, no credit cards), investing in the kids education, or even investing in house upkeep. Renting looks better and better each day, and the rush in the late 90s and the first portion of the 2000s to single family homes, the "ownership society" I spoke of earlier, looks like the American Nightmare, at least to some of us.

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  147. You might want to seriously consider formally approaching your lender to renegotiate. Seriously. In this environment they might actually be tempted to think of both your and their longer term well-being. It can't hurt to follow 'the process' and ask.

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  148. Not unlike what has occurred in the economic realm, Bush was able to "leverage" his position as Leader of the Free World. I'm not going to blame evrything on him.. but 8 years proved long enough to make some badass bad-neighbor decisions. I am still not convinced that the Economic Peril we face right now is anywhere near the magnitude of the International Good Faith we have lost as a result of 8 years of Bush diplomacy.

    The Lack of Credibility the Bush White House now carries is the worst damage he has caused.

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  149. While I loathe the Bush Administration, I think there's always a tendency to over-estimate the scheming and conspiracy ability of the opposition.

    What merely looks like a bad day or bad idea when "my guy" does it looks like a well-organized and very evil plan when done by the opposition.

    In light of some of the wretched domestic surveliiance and Homeland Security stuff that's passed in recent years, I'm pretty much hoping that the government isn't as good at what it tries to do as I fear it is.

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  150. And people like to blame the folks who took out the loans. And sure, Mr. and Mrs. Jones were partly to blame, I think, but Mr. and Mrs. Jones are not professional lenees. The people who gace them the loans WERE professional LENDERS.

    The lenders SHOULD HAVE KNOWN that folks were getting loans they weren't going to be able to pay back. But the lenders didn't care - they gave loans to everything that moved and then sold the debt to 3rd parties.

    Mr and Mrs. Jones getting a loan they couldn't pay wouldn't have ruined the industry. It was a systemic policy by the lenders to hand out unwise loans and then sell them before default occurred.

    Our economy is based on legalized widescale gambling.

    I'm not economic expert, of course, and I'm tired of people who act like they are. But that's the problem I saw from my clients.

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  151. Thanks for the advice. I'm currently in this process, and most likely the payment will be nearly $300 less a month, with the rate locked in for 5 years. I've used the "terms we can both live with" line and the "you need to offer something that will allow me to succeed" line often in phone calls with the loss mitigation department and the loan modification department.

    Considering the huge wait times to get anyone from either of these departments, I'm thinking I'm not the only one...

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  152. *ding ding ding* We have a winner.

    Once underwriters were able to bundle and move the debt to 3rd parties, accountability went out the window. At first, I thought they were pusing refi's just for the underwriting fees, but since then the real truth has come out.

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  153. I want to combine this quote with one from Adri:
    "The lenders SHOULD HAVE KNOWN that folks were getting loans they weren't going to be able to pay back."

    The lenders did know. And WPG is right about the lenders being able to securitizing the debt away. Now, ask yourselves, how were they able to all of a sudden underwrite and securitize away loans that in the past they wouldn't have been able to underwrite? What changed in the market that allowed them to do this?

    Fannie & Freddie "all of a sudden" when out and started guaranting sub-prime loans (in addition to purchasing them and bundeling them for re-sale), which then fueled the underwriter's behavior. Now, why did Fannie & Freddie do this?

    Because Congress told them to under the guise of increasing the "ownership society". There are allegations that Congress passed this legislation directing F&F to do this, as payback ongress for congress covering their massive accounting frauds that were discovered in 2002 & 2003.

    This is just one leg (the SEC leverae rule change is one, leverage of the investment houses is another, and the development of a class of investment instruments (CDO's) that even the pros didn't understand, are the others) of the table that has collasped under the market in the past year. And this one leg has at least four contributing parties to it's collaspe.

    So, at least to my perspective, to sit there and say "it's all the fault of those greedy lenders", and not assign equal blame on all the parties involved, is not correct.

    When the system was working, everyone loved it. Now that the system is broken, everyone is trying to find their favorite scape goat. I say rather than trying to play politics or class warfare or advance some political agenda here, let's figure out what happened and how we're going to stop it from happening again.

    But are you really ready for society dictating through policy who should have a house and who shouldn't?

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  154. True unforgiven, and...we are never ready for legislation to address the "system is broken" part while the "system is working" part.

    We should all know better that there are enough shades of grey in this world that we can't paint any big problem with the "it's all the fault of (fill in the blank)" black and white simple solution brush.

    We should...

    But we often do it anyways. It ranks right up there with how we state our opinions like they are stone cold facts.

    But I digress, because I just did it in this comment...*sigh*

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  155. Look, we never know something isn't working until it breaks. The warning signs may be there all along, but until our car stops in the middle of the road, we may not pay attention to the problems.

    And don't take what I say as stone cold facts. I got everything from the internet, and we all know what kind of fountain of truth that is...

    I'm just wondering if it's irony that the same group that wrote and passed legislation in the first place that may have contributed to all of this, is the same group that is supposed to write legislation to get us out of this.

    Fuck it. That's too much to think about. It's all Bush's fault.

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  156. See, the easy way...lol

    But the preventative maintenence analogy fits perfectly here.

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  157. Have you forgotten what WE did in a little country called Iraq?

    On the evolutionary scale, what Russia did in Georgia has been a stunning success, utterly efficient and effective, and for pennies on the dollar, while what WE did in Iraq has been nothing but sheer stupidity, showing how arrogant and idiotic WE as a people have been, in not only putting Bush in power, also in letting him and his kind to proceed with the most atrocious rape of this world to date.

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  158. On the issue of intelligence and wisdom, Bush is indeed an idiot, and a right-wing religious extremist type of idiot. But he is not important, never was; instead, the real culprit is the people Bush represents, the same people who put him there and used him as a shield and excuse to cover their individual rape and pillage of their corner of this world.

    The real struggle is between my half of Americans and your half of Americans. I always hold the German people responsible for having produced Hitler, likewise, all who voted for Bush and the Republicans in the past eight years should come clean with their conscience this November. You Republican supporters carry most of the responsibility for allowing and watching Bush and his gang destroy justice, democracy, and humanity for eight long years.

    So, friend, it is NOT the fault of Bush alone. It is YOURS. Assuming you voted for him and his kind all your life.

    By the way, if the rich is so destined to survive and prosper over the poor, then why do they work so hard at keeping the poor down? Why are they against public education, public healthcare, public transportation, and etc.? Why are they scared to death about "class warfare"? If they are indeed God’s favorites, then nothing can ever touch them, right? What are they worried about, friend?

    Give me a freaking break!

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  159. Now we're really getting productive. Division as cure. It only seems like finger pointing.

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  160. I'm considering putting the text of the original Time-Out blog into a comment as a reply...

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  161. I think you need the pic of the fan and the vacuum cleaner and "You Suck" .. "Blow Me"...

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  162. This reminds me of a blog I saw some time ago called "Usury":

    http://missbar.multiply.com/journal/item/3

    You didn't write it, did you?

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  163. oh I get it! You were doing a parody! *nice*

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  164. Suddenly I feel the urge to write something political. Must be the contrarian Taurus in me. Perhaps a piece of political poetry, no less.

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  165. I see what you did there... Politics AND poetry...

    You're not a political troll, so I'll look the other way...

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  166. Ha! I can't wait to tell my kids. See, they're all teenagers, and they think that I'm some stupid idiot that doesn't know shit, but (drum roll) I've really been controlling the world all this time! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!

    I am the man (Pie said so). You may all bow down before me now and quake in fear. Or, better yet, go get me a diet coke, 'cause all this lording is making me thirsty.

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  167. That's like with the Presidential race.

    We need to make a little plaque for the guy who wins the November Prez race. "Congratulations, you are the winner. You win the worst economy in years, two foreign wars, a Social Security system on the verge of collapse, a crazed Russian state, Iran, ideological idiots from one side or the other who will automatically hate you on principle, a lifetime's worth of tabloid stories, and so much more. Remember, you are the WINNER!"

    That's why we get such high quality bores willing to do it... It doesn't seem like a job I'd want (and the political media would frown on my eccentricities, anyway...).

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  168. Man, you can’t just vote, complain, and then not take any responsibility in the whole thing. Instead of pointing your fingers at Congress (instead of Bush) just now, you, I hoped, would realize that everyone here is responsible for sending the “best” people to DC this November.

    You earlier claimed that “Look, we never know something isn't working until it breaks. The warning signs may be there all along, but until our car stops in the middle of the road, we may not pay attention to the problems.” Well, I KNOW it does not have to be this bleak. None of this is magic or not knowable, in fact, most are known, and many have warned us about it year after year. Economic and social intellectuals around the world have long known how all this work. The rich and powerful are the ones who constantly discredit science and intellectuals, in their desperate attempt at hiding the truth from the masses. Nothing “suddenly” happened, instead, all were the result of decades of deregulation, of letting greed run amuck on Wall Street AND Main Street. While Congress made deregulation a reality, Congress was not really at fault, you know, they simply did what YOU sent them to do!

    So, I hope you would not abdicate your responsibility in your role in this democracy. The best way to demonstrate your wisdom is to show up on Nov 4th and vote your conscience.

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  169. one thing the vote yesterday prove--how broke the political system really is.

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  170. We know it's broke.. that's what the 700 billion is for. :-)

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  171. I would l,ike, as much as practicable, for the Sanitarium to be a bit of a refuge from the political debates OUT THERE I can't get away from. At least the bickering.

    It's all starting to sound like static to me...

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  172. i'm stayin away from the political fray . . . i don't have enough fingers . . .

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  173. I'm bored of everyone trying to prove they are an expert on social policy, economics, blah blah blah.

    Not that the experts have done much for us lately, haha...

    Like I said somewhere recently, I have grown weary of people who have an opinion on everything.

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  174. Ha!

    Actually, as we recall from the openning words of this blog.. at best you're sharing your seat with The Author.

    "On behalf of everyone else on the planet, I am officially placing you in “time out.”

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  175. perhaps. you might consider reading barton gelman's book "angler" about our vice president.

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  176. good point, Cheney sits in an evil league of his own. So, perhaps Bush is just the public face on the Cheney Administration?

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  177. Bush is like the guy from "Flowers for Algernon" before he got smart.

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  178. Does that mean I can't reply to Banana Cream Pie's last slice across my plate?

    If so, that's fine. I respect and agree with what Adri said originally, and if it's time to put down the ginsu knives, that's cool with me. Will Tollhouse do the same?

    How about dem Mets?

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  179. The guy who actually has his name on the ballot is always mostly there to cut ribbons and throw out the first pitch and so forth, right? I mean, for the most part? With the exception of, you know, Nixon and Clinton, maybe, and we see how those two turned out...

    The really talented brilliant guys are rarely the ones personable and attractive enough to get elected. President is the cheap job. Karl Rove and Dick Cheney and others whose names we don't even know - now THERE is where the fun stuff happens (I'm serious!).

    One person can't possibly have it all. For example, an intelligent, professionally successful and attractive single woman who can weave a fairly good blogtale AND is willing to endlessly banter back and forth with you online? Impossible. That's a committee of folks and the pic is just the public face, my friend...

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  180. Thank you.

    Although really, had the two of you gone back and forth for just a little longer, I'm pretty sure he would have convinced you of the total veracity of his thinking.

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  181. Like, I know, you saw it coming too, right? Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

    Or something like that.

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  182. This fembot is not the one you are looking for. Move along and don't pay attention to when she speaks and her lips don't move.

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